So yeah, I think it's crucial for Christians to recognize the distinction between certain

moral and biblical principles and the policies which are tactical slash strategic ways

of attempting to implement those moral principles and leaving space for one another, even when we agree on

the principles, the moral or biblical principles, to disagree and offer Christian freedom,

charity of judgment on those points of strategic, tactical, prudential disagreement.

Welcome to the Crossway podcast, a show where we sit down with authors each week

for thoughtful interviews about the Bible, theology, church history, and the Christian life.

I'm Matt Tully, and today I'm talking with Jonathan Lehman.

Jonathan serves as the editorial director for

Nine Marks and as an elder at Chevroly Baptist Church just outside of Washington, D.C.

He and Andy Nasseli are the co-authors of a new book from Crossway, How Can I Love Church Members

with Different Politics? Today, Jonathan and I discuss how Christian should think about political disagreements within the church.

He makes the important distinction between clear biblical principles on the one hand and prudential applications of those principles on the other.

Shares his take on how much pastors and church leaders should say regarding their own political perspectives,

online and in person, and offers advice for those worried about political controversy,

causing division within their church. Let's get started.

Jonathan, thank you so much for joining me today on the Crossway podcast.

Matt, it's great to be with you. Thank you.

So it seems like the political landscape, at least in the U.S., but I think even around the

world in different parts, is more polarized, more frustrated, more distrustful than ever before.

And you studied political science at both an undergraduate and graduate level.

And so I wonder, do you actually think that's the case or is this something that every generation feels?

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