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Decoder with Nilay Patel

How private equity kills companies and communities

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Today, I’m talking with journalist Megan Greenwell about her new book Bad Company: Private Equity and the Death of the American Dream. It comes out June 10th. It's fantastic and maddening in equal measure. I highly recommend it. In this episode, we discussed the genesis of Megan’s interest in the subject and its genesis in media — including her time as editor-in-chief of the website Deadspin, which underwent a very public PE takeover of its parent company. We also talk a lot about the healthcare industry, another major pillar of Megan’s book. I'm excited to hear what you think of this one. Links:  Bad Company | HarperCollins Private equity bought out your doctor and bankrupted Toys ‘R’ Us | Decoder Private equity Is gutting America — and getting away with it | NYT I was fired from Deadspin for refusing to ‘stick to sports’ | NYT Will private equity be the next ‘Big Short’? | Marketplace The profit-obsessed monster destroying American ERs | Vox Why your vet bill is so high | The Atlantic The investment firms leave behind a barren wasteland’ | Politico Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinde Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Nelai Patel, editor-in-chief of the Virgin,

0:35.5

and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems.

0:39.0

Today I'm talking with Megan Greenwell, a former top editor, both Wired and Deadspin, about her new book,

0:44.5

Bad Company, Private Equity and the Death of the American Dream. The book comes out on June 10th,

0:49.4

and it is a searing account of how private equity goes far beyond impacting failing businesses,

0:55.4

and deeply affects and transforms the lives of everyday Americans. Now, Decoder is very much a show about the

1:00.5

systems and frameworks that explain tech policy and business. And that means we've talked about

1:06.0

private equity a number of times on the show because PE is everywhere across the business

1:10.6

landscape,

1:11.6

even though it's massive influence on how so many companies operate is pretty hidden from view.

1:17.0

But once you see it, you start to see it everywhere. And it is incredibly validating to hear

1:22.4

that so many other people have had similar experiences with companies managed by private

1:27.0

equity.

1:33.0

One of the reasons I know this is because it's in our numbers and the feedback we get here on Decoder.

1:39.1

Our 2023 episode with lawyer and author Brendan Ballou about his private equity book, Plunder,

1:43.0

is one of our most popular episodes. We'll link to that in the show notes.

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