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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky wants to build the everything app

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Today, I’m talking with Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky. This is Brian’s fourth time on the show, and he’s one of my favorite guests because he’s so clearly obsessed with things like company structure, design, and decision making. You know, Decoder stuff. This time, Brian came on to talk about the company’s new services product and the full-scale redesign and rebuild of the Airbnb app to support these broader ambitions. There’s a lot of fun, very Decoder-y stuff in this one.  Links:  Airbnb’s new app has all of your vacation extras in one place | Verge “Flat design is over” | Brian Chesky Airbnb Is in midlife crisis mode | Wired He revolutionized travel. Can Airbnb’s founder redesign your entire life? | WSJ Airbnb’s CEO explains how he helped Sam Altman during OpenAI fiasco | Fast Company A conversation with Airbnb’s Brian Chesky | Figma Jony Ive is bringing his design talents to Airbnb | Verge Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode really means | Decoder Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky is taking it back to basics | Decoder Why the future of work is the future of travel, with Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky | Decoder Help us plan for the future of Decoder by filling out a brief survey: voxmedia.com/survey. Thank you! Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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It's the number one cloud ERP that brings accounting, financial management, inventory, HR, into one suite and one source of truth.

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You get the visibility and control you need to make quick decisions and tame the chaos.

0:37.1

And with AI embedded throughout, you can automate a lot of those everyday tasks. You get the visibility and control you need to make quick decisions and tame the chaos.

0:44.1

And with AI embedded throughout, you can automate a lot of those everyday tasks so your teams can stay strategic.

0:48.9

NetSuite helps you know what's stuck, what it's costing you, and how to pivot fast. If your revenues are at least in the seven figures, download the free ebook, navigating global trade,

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1:09.7

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1:35.5

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1:42.2

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they want to let you know all about what happens if they ultimately win that fight.

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Today, the battle for digital rights is bigger and more urgent than ever,

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