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10% Happier with Dan Harris

How Not to Ruin Your Relationships | Drs. John & Julie Gottman

10% Happier with Dan Harris

10% Media, LLC

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.612.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2024

⏱️ 69 minutes

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What 40 years of research tells us about how to cultivate good relationships in our lives.


World-renowned for his work on marital stability and divorce prediction, Dr. John Gottman has conducted over 40 years of breakthrough research with thousands of couples. He is the co-founder of The Gottman Institute and Affective Software Inc. as well as author of over 200 published academic articles and author or co-author of more than 40 books, including The New York Times bestseller The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work


Dr. Julie Gottman is the Co-Founder and President of The Gottman Institute and Co-Founder of Affective Software, Inc. A highly respected clinical psychologist and author, she is sought internationally by media and organizations as an expert advisor on marriage, domestic violence, gay and lesbian adoption, same-sex marriage, and parenting issues. She is the co-creator of the immensely popular The Art and Science of Love weekend workshop for couples and she also co-designed the national clinical training program in Gottman Method Couples Therapy. 


In this episode we talk about:

  • how to talk (and listen) to your partner in moments of conflict
  • what to do before you start trying to solve a problem together
  • why "there's no such thing as constructive criticism" 
  • the details of John's research findings, which have allowed him to predict with stunning accuracy whether a couple will get divorced
  • how the Gottmans themselves do when it comes to operationalizing their findings/advice
  • how and why betrayal occurs
  • when a couple should consider separating 
  • the role mindfulness can play in healthy relationships
  • and the role of humor in relationships.




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0:00.0

This is the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

0:18.7

Hello, my fellow suffering beings, how we doing today? Given what we know about the importance,

0:25.0

the primacy even, of relationships to a healthy and happy life, it is imperative that we understand

0:31.1

what science says about how to actually build and maintain healthy relationships. Today,

0:36.8

we've got two of the leading voices in this

0:39.0

field. Doctors Julie and John Gottman are the co-founders of the Gottman Institute. They have completed

0:44.4

over 40 years of research with more than 3,000 couples. Loyal listeners will recall that we had

0:50.5

the Gottman's on the show on Monday to talk about their new book called Fight Right,

0:55.1

which is about, as the title suggests, how to have healthy arguments with your partner.

0:59.2

Today, though, we are dropping as a bonus.

1:02.1

My previous interview with the Gottman's, which makes for a perfect pairing, especially as we

1:07.4

come up on Valentine's Day here.

1:09.9

In this conversation, we talk about the role mindfulness can play in healthy relationships,

1:13.7

the role of humor, which is a double-edged sword, as you will hear.

1:17.6

We also talk about how and why betrayal or infidelity occurs when a couple should consider separating

1:23.8

and how the Gottman's themselves do when it comes to operationalizing their own

1:28.7

findings and advice. Before we dive in, just to say we've got some exciting things happening

1:35.0

in the 10% happier universe, we are now offering bespoke guided meditations to go with every

1:43.1

podcast episode. Those meditations will be guided by a

1:47.3

teacher of the month, all people who you know from the 10% cinematic universe, people who have

1:52.8

been on this podcast before. I like to think of the podcast as the lecture and then the guided

1:58.4

meditations as the lab. These meditations are available only for

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