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Modern parenting has its challenges.

Lunches to prep, laundry to do, homework to help with, soccer drop-offs to shuttle.

There's just a baseline level of stress

and busyness that comes with being a mom or dad today. But life sometimes turns in ways that

sends these usual parental burdens into stress overdrive, like when there's a scary health

diagnosis, or a death in the family, or a job loss. What wisdom can moms and dads turn to during these extra

difficult parenting moments? What can you do to find solace as a caregiver when it feels like

you're the one that needs care? Well, today's two guests have some answers. As the power couple

hosts of the hit podcast, We Can Do Hard Things, best-selling author Glennon Doyle and soccer legend

Abby Wambach are used to handling tough family situations. Since getting married a few years ago,

the pair have navigated the typical challenges of raising three teenagers. But recently, as Glennon

explains, life decided to hurl a series of nasty plot twists their way. A couple years ago, all within like a six-month period,

I was diagnosed with anorexia.

Abby lost her beloved brother, Peter,

and our sister Amanda was diagnosed with breast cancer.

And this weird thing happened was,

you know how in your friend groups or in your family,

there's usually like

one person who is okay and so when you lose your shit you like you can go to somebody to remind you

of who you are or of what it's true and so I think for the first time everybody was unmoored.

How do you cope when your entire family support system is falling apart, when everybody is

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