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The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Is a "Viking" Childhood a Happier Childhood (with Helen Russell)?

The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.714.6K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Nordic countries are known to be happy - so should we all raise our children like the Scandinavians do? British parent Helen Russell moved to Denmark and was shocked that Danish children play outside in all weathers; are given sharp tools and they're shown how to light matches.

In her book The Danish Secret to Happy Kids: How the Viking Way of Raising Children Makes Them Happier, Healthier, and More Independent, Helen explains why play, risk and independence are the cornerstones of "viking" parenting.    

This series on parenting coincides with Dr Laurie's new free online class, The Science of Wellbeing for Parents which is available now at Coursera.org. You can sign up at drlauriesantos.com/parents.

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0:00.0

You're listening to an IHeart podcast.

0:18.4

It's no secret that Nordic countries have very high levels of well-being.

0:23.0

Ever since the World Happiness Report launched their famous country happiness rankings back in 2012,

0:28.1

Scandinavian countries have consistently dominated the competition.

0:31.7

In fact, Finland and Denmark have claimed the top spots for an impressive seven years running.

0:36.9

The U.S. and UK, by contrast, they haven't even broken into the top ten.

0:41.3

So what's behind this Nordic happiness advantage?

0:44.4

Journalist Helen Russell believes it starts in childhood.

0:47.5

It's not an accident that people from the Nordic countries have voted the happiest in the world year after year.

0:52.9

This is how they are raised.

0:54.8

If you're a fan of the Happiness Lab, you might remember Helen from a previous episode,

0:58.9

entitled Move to Your Happy Place. I asked Helen to return for this special series on parenting

1:03.9

because she has traveled a rather circuitous path towards a happier family life.

1:08.7

So I am London, born and bred, and my husband got a job at Lego in Denmark,

1:14.2

and we had no intention of ever leaving London,

1:16.3

but Denmark kept being voted the happiest country in the world.

1:19.4

And I kind of wondered what was it all about?

1:21.5

Could it be that beer, bacon, Danish pastries really made you that happy?

1:24.9

So I decided I would give it a year,

1:26.9

investigating the Danish

1:27.9

happiness phenomenon firsthand, looking at different areas of Danish living to see if any of them

1:32.4

made me happier. And spoiler alert, it sort of did. And I ended up staying not one year, but nearly

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