Welcome to Resilience Development in Action with Steve Bisson.

This is the podcast dedicated to first responder mental health, helping police, fire,

EMS, dispatchers, and paramedics create better growth environments for themselves and their teams.

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Okay. teams. Let's get started. Well, welcome back for part two with Nikki Mason. She's still sitting here. Always great to see you again, but magic of like podcasting like a week later, suddenly

she looks exactly the same night or two. That's just how it works. That's go on YouTube to get what

I'm saying. But we were talking a little bit about family. I want to shift gears a little bit because

we talked about that, but we talked about how we need to educate. Also, I believe people who are

in charge, particularly I feel like administration sometimes

don't understand that let them have the little party in the front end when they're having a

hard time so that we can keep an acute stress disorder like I think I mentioned the other episode

how do we you know I'm sure that you've faced that and talking into leadership.

How have you dealt with those things? Because I think it's really, it's a hard conversation

sometimes. It is a hard conversation. And I think helping, you know, people to understand that

having an opportunity to get somebody treatment, get them appropriate treatment, proper treatment,

and especially at a point where they're willing to engage in that treatment, that's a really

rare gem of a moment. So it doesn't make a lot of sense to rush through that or dismiss it

when you have it. So if you're in that

position and somebody's saying, you know, yeah, I will participate in a 30-day program. I will

participate in an IOP day treatment program. I will participate in whatever it is. You know,

it's in everyone's best interest to support

that. And it really does give the opportunity to have some long lasting results versus

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