I mean, there are upwards of 200 people that beta tested it and they have an account, you know, from marketing strategists all the way to very small marketing agencies.

Nothing crazy, I want to say.

I guess that comes down to my standards, but we do have solid traction.

Okay, but just back to my question.

So do you have paying customers today?

Or are you pre-revenue?

I'll be pre-revenue.

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