How do you define color?
Think from KERA
KERA
4.7 • 911 Ratings
🗓️ 17 April 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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If the definition of “green” is yellow plus blue, how do you define “yellow” and “blue”? Kory Stamper is a lexicographer who has written dictionaries for nearly 30 years at Merriam-Webster, Cambridge Dictionaries and Dictionary.com. She joins host Krys Boyd to discuss the difficulty of defining colors, why they are nearly indescribable, and why it took the help of scientists to create descriptions of everything around us. Her book is “True Color: The Strange and Spectacular Quest to Define Color – from Azure to Zinc Pink.”
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| 0:43.3 | You don't have to be a lexicographer to define words. Although writing definitions for a dictionary is a lot more complicated and difficult, |
| 0:47.3 | any one of us could probably describe a pencil or a daisy or an elbow using language alone. |
| 0:53.3 | But familiarity doesn't mean a word is easy to explain |
| 0:57.1 | with other words. Just imagine trying to write the definition of yellow or red or blue for someone |
| 1:03.5 | who had never seen them. From KERA in Dallas, this is think. I'm Chris Boyd. Simple and ubiquitous as they are, even primary |
| 1:12.5 | colors are nearly indescribable for most of us. And then there is the problem of all the many |
| 1:17.6 | thousands of colors in between. Like when is something green blue or blue green or turquoise? |
| 1:23.7 | What is the difference between coral and salmon and melon? As my guest will tell us, locking down the names and meanings of different hues required years |
| 1:32.3 | of work from scientists as well as word experts and may never be complete if we keep inventing |
| 1:37.3 | new colors in the lab. |
| 1:39.3 | Corey Stamper is a lexicographer who has written dictionaries for nearly 30 years at Merriam-Webster, Cambridge Dictionaries, and Dictionary.com. |
| 1:47.3 | And she's author of the new book True Color, The Strange and Spectacular Quest to Define Color from Azure to Zinc Pink. |
| 1:55.2 | Corey, welcome to think. |
| 1:56.3 | Thanks so much, Chris. It's great to be here. |
| 1:58.2 | This is so interesting. |
| 1:59.2 | Your interesting color as a lexicographer |
| 2:02.0 | began when you were working on Merriam-Webster's third, the unabridged version. And like the mandated |
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