I'm CNN tech reporter Claire Duffy.

I cover artificial intelligence and other new technologies for a living.

And even I sometimes get overwhelmed trying to keep up with it all and stay safe in the process.

On the podcast, Terms of Service, we can explore how to experiment with these new tools

without getting played by them. Listen to CNN's Terms of Service wherever you get your podcasts.

Watching a champion figure skater is a little like witnessing magic, but it is not wizardry that makes it possible, it's will.

At least in theory, any one of us who practiced long and hard enough could build the skill and strength to leap and spin on ice.

Well, the same goes for optimism.

In dark times, it can seem like a supernatural ability, but in fact, it grows and develops every time we practice it, like psychological strength training.

From KERA in Dallas, this is think.

I'm Chris Boyd.

Science has demonstrated some real benefits to an

optimistic worldview. But if you've struggled to maintain a positive outlook, somebody like my

guest might feel like the right coach to help, because she'll admit that she is not naturally

the most optimistic person. She's had to work at it, and she is convinced it has been

worth the effort. Deepika Chopra is a psychologist and author of the book The Power of Real

Optimism, a practical, science-based guide to staying resilient, curious, and open even when life is hard.

Deepika, welcome to think. Thank you so much. It's so great to be here.

If optimism is not about absolutely being convinced everything will turn out the way we want,

what does it help us believe? Yeah, I think that the key here, and over time, you know,

I've been studying optimism for quite a while. And

what I kept noticing is that we really have this misunderstanding and even myself before doing

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