Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, SCS Nation, and welcome to Surviving the Survivor.

It is the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of true crime as we cover

trending cases and there's not a bigger case going on in the United States of America

or elsewhere right now in terms of true crime.

Then the very mysterious death of multiple Oscar winner, Gene Hackman, across the board,

a beloved actor, a phenomenal actor in some amazing movies like Hoosiers and the French

Connection.

And he passed at 95 along with his wife, 64 years old, and their dog.

And first said, a law enforcement said nothing to see here.

And now they're saying, wait a minute, things are not completely adding up.

We do bring you the best guests in true crime, and today, not one, but two legendary homicide detectives.

Phil Ramos is three-time Las Vegas officer of the year, and he is here right now to help us break down

this story.

Phil Ramos, P.H.I.L.

Soon we should be joined by F.L.

Waters, Phil Waters, both of them spending many, many years in the homicide

divisions of their respective police departments, Phil Ramos in Las Vegas, and FIL

Waters in Houston. I am a little concerned because Phil is never late,

and he actually called me today.

So I'm just wondering where you are, Phil,

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