Ultimately, EVs are a superior technology.

It is a more efficient technology.

It is a more cost-effective technology.

And that is going to lead a thing faster than we think to the entire car industry converting to EVs. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us, made in partnership with The Nation magazine.

I'm your host, Paris Marx, and this week my guest is Paolo Javado.

Paolo is the author of The Digital Party and the Great Recoil.

He's also a senior research fellow at the Department of Political History,

theories, and geography of Completense University in Madrid.

Now, last week, we talked with Ed Niedermeyer about Tesla,

and what has been going on with that electric vehicle company

that has received so much attention these past

couple decades recently. And obviously, things are not great with the mass layoffs, the failure

of the cyber truck, the difficulty of delivering so many of the other vehicles, and just the

general troubles that the company is having lately. But beyond its own internal issues, Tesla is also

facing a lot of competition,

not just from European and North American automakers, but from Chinese automakers as well,

especially in that market, but increasingly internationally, too. The main competitor it increasingly

faces is BYD. It's a Chinese company that started as a battery manufacturer, but has moved

into electric vehicles in a very successful way.

Indeed, in recent quarters and over the past year, BYD and Tesla have kind of been fighting for the title of top seller of electric vehicles worldwide.

And at this point, BYD is still quite early in its international rollout.

Certainly, it operates in sales in

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