I don't see that they really care about solving these problems, these tech folks.

They are exploiting very real issues of concern in San Francisco to sell a very simple narrative of blame in order to take power.

Thank you. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us, made in partnership with The Nation magazine.

I'm your host, Paris Marks, and this week my guest is Gil Duran.

Gil is an independent journalist who is the former editorial page editor at the Sacramento B. He's been a journalist for a long time, but took a break from that to do communications

for the Democratic Party for some time. Now, it's important to say that that doesn't mean that

he defends everything that the Democratic Party does, as you'll hear in this interview.

But I wanted to have him on the show, not because of some former association with the Democratic

Party, but because he has been doing a lot of important work, looking into the ideology of

the tech billionaires that, you know, we talk about quite often on the show, and in particular,

how they want to govern San Francisco

and these new cities that they're trying to build around the world, what that would actually

look like and the opposition to democracy that is very much at the core of it. In particular,

Gil had a piece out in the New Republic about a month or so ago, going into Balaji Srinivasa's vision for a network

state and what that would imply. And it's a really scary vision. In particular, he talks

about the need to ethnically cleanse San Francisco and cities like it of what he calls

blues, which of course refers to people from the Democratic Party, but also goes far beyond

that because in the ideology of these people, the Democratic Party is everything basically to the

center and the left of it. So it includes liberals, it includes people on the left, you know,

communists, everybody is tied up in that blue definition. And of course, that would be done, that would be performed by Greys, who are the people in the

tech industry who would be wielding the power over this future San Francisco or whatever

other jurisdiction that they try to implement this program.

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