the fact that he did have some positive impact on the designs, this is why he thinks of himself as product architect.

And I think this is why now he's built up in his own mind, the idea that he is a design God.

Yeah. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us, made in partnership with The Nation magazine.

I'm your host, Paris Marks.

And before we get into this week's episode, just a quick programming note.

As you will be familiar with by now, the show recently turned four years old. It's hard to imagine I've been doing it for this long. But at this point as well,

I've been thinking about other things that I want to be doing. When it comes to making tech won't

save us every single week, there's still a lot of work that I put into the production of actually

making it, even though I have Eric to help me with that,

and Bridget, who helps do the transcripts. And so after four years, there are some other projects

that I want to be putting more time into while still being able to make the show for you

and deliver the great content that you've come to expect. So that means I'm in the process of

slowly shifting more of that production work over to Eric, and I need to pay him to be able to do that.

So later this month, you're going to notice that we're slowly going to start introducing ads.

Just start, not every episode will have one, but the idea is that in a few months' time,

you might hear an episode with one, two, eventually maybe even three ads per show, to help

fund that production work that I've previously been doing, but that I'm

going to have other people like Eric be doing from now on. As you know, ads are very common on

podcasts and we have held out for four years by not introducing them to the show, but at this point

it felt like the right time to do it so that I could free up more of my time and I could make

sure that Eric is getting paid for the important work that he does. The ads are not going to be overwhelming, and I'm working with Multitude Productions,

who you might remember from the show that we did with Eric Silver earlier this year,

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