Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I'm the editor in chief of Current Affairs Magazine, and I am here today with a man who has been named one of the world's ten most influential intellectuals by MIT. He's the author of many books, including Life, Inc., including throwing rocks at the Google Bus,

and his most recent book is Survival of the Richest,

Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires.

You may have seen him as a host on PBS Frontline.

You may have read him in the New York Times or The Guardian.

I am speaking with the media and tech critic.

You're laughing now.

I love it the way you take a little drink while you're speaking.

I can hear the echo of the bottle sort of approaching

as the bottle approached your lips. It was great.

It's an audio feast.

Have I missed out any of your

credentials?

Your professor. I'm a

professor. A full friggin professor.

Yeah. I am here

with Dr. Douglas Rushkoff.

Dr. Professor, Hair Professor, Dr. Rushok.

Dr. Professor Rushkoff, thank you for joining us.

Great to be with you.

All right. So, Survival of the Riches, let's talk about the horrendous tech dystopia being built for us and the way billionaires are destroying the world for us,

perhaps the best place to start is where the book starts,

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