One of the great competitive advantages of the oil industry is in its gifts for regulatory

capture.

And I think that we are seeing that in the current context.

We certainly are.

That was Carol Muffet, President and CEO of the Center for International Environmental

Law.

I'm Amy Westerville and this is Drilled.

We last heard from Muffet in our madman season, talking about John Hill.

He's the guy who told us about oil companies creating filters for cigarettes, which

blew my mind.

Today, the Center for International Environmental Law releases a report entitled,

Pandemic Amid Systemic Decline.

Why exploiting the COVID-19 crisis will not save the oil, gas and plastics industries?

So I wanted to have Muffet on to talk through some of the key findings in that report.

There are two other reports out this week as well that are all kind of related to this

COVID climate intersection.

An analysis from friends of the Earth that shows how oil and gas companies might get a lot

of their debt wiped out by a new Federal Reserve program.

And Influence Map has one looking at anti-environmental lobbying that's happening during the pandemic.

All stuff we've also been covering in our climate, COVID policy tracker.

Check that out online if you haven't already.

As we've reported on before, the fossil fuel industry was in trouble long before the coronavirus

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