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2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Hour 3: Fitz & Buck - Generational Player

2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

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Football, News, Sports News, Sports

4.63.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Jason Fitz & Buck Reising talk about how ex-Ohio State safety is a generational talent in this draft and should be targeted in the Top 10, Mike Vrabel avoiding pre-draft press conferences for the Patriots amid his scandal with NFL insider Diana Russini, and "Would You Rather?"

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.2

With the NFL draft just a week and a half away, all eyes suddenly turned to Pittsburgh.

0:09.4

And as much as we've spent plenty of time talking about quarterbacks, and we even spend

0:13.7

plenty of time talking about some of the superstars, we've forgotten maybe one of the best players

0:19.0

in this draft no matter the position because he's not the

0:22.3

running back it's the safety we keep forgetting about Caleb downs should your team take a

0:28.4

random player that's great even if the position is not perceived to be one of need buck rising

0:34.2

jason fits buck and fits on fox Radio. We were just talking about the fact

0:38.0

that Buck covers the Tennessee Titans. I'm a Raiders fan. Everybody knows that, right? So you and I

0:43.1

have plenty of experience around bad teams. Buck, I keep dying on this hill that, you know, at the

0:47.3

end of the day, bad teams need great players. So at some point, you just got to get great players.

0:52.1

And then I look specifically at Seattle, who just

0:54.9

won a Super Bowl by having a defense particularly that they built in a way where, man, that secondary

1:01.0

can do so many different things in so many different ways. It became something that smart

1:05.5

quarterbacks were doing breakdowns up before the Super Bowl. What makes the Seahawks defense

1:09.4

so difficult for teams to take on?

1:27.5

And part of that is having a secondary that can line up in a lot of different ways, disguised a lot of different things, and having pieces that are, you know, buzzword variable, right? Like they can do a lot of different things. That to me is Caleb Downs, right? So while we're sitting here saying you can't take a safety in the top 10,

1:46.8

you know, you can't take a safety that high. Caleb Downs is one of the few, I think, truly generational type players in this year's draft. If my favorite team selects him, I don't care if he goes second, third, fourth, I don't care. I don't care if he's a safety. At the end of the day for me, he's a defensive player that makes an immediate impact that makes my team better from day one.

1:44.4

We spend so much time more. At the end of the day, for me, he's a defensive player that makes an immediate impact.

1:46.8

It makes my team better from day one.

1:52.1

We spend so much time worrying about, well, how much are you paying him relative to what you would pay at top safety?

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