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#HOTEL MARS: SPACEX: COSTS OF FAILS UNKNOWN. DOUGLAS MESSIER, DAVID LIVINGSTON

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🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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#HOTEL MARS:  SPACEX: COSTS OF FAILS UNKNOWN. DOUGLAS MESSIER, DAVID LIVINGSTON
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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world.

0:05.9

Hotel Mars Episode N, David Livingston, Dr. Space, my colleague and co-host and co-pilot is here.

0:11.9

And we're very pleased to be joined by our longtime colleague, Douglas Messier, who keeps a site at Substack.

0:18.6

I highly recommend Doug is a space news reporter.

0:23.0

And right now the reports on what happens at Boca Chica doesn't stay at Boca Chica.

0:29.0

Starship Block 2, 8, 9, and 10.

0:33.1

Questions about all three.

0:35.7

One of them failed over the Caribbean. One of them failed over the Indian Ocean, another one during a static test failed on the stand.

0:42.3

Doug, a very good evening to you. I read a deal of your reporting and compare and contrast. I see no single pattern of these failures of Mr. Musk's genius.

0:55.0

Is there one that has been discovered eight, nine, and ten?

0:59.0

Good evening to you.

1:01.0

Good evening.

1:02.0

Good to be back.

1:03.0

Yeah, there have been actually four failures this year.

1:08.0

On June 18th, there was a

1:11.6

exploded on the stand and in the three previous flights,

1:16.6

the Starship upper stage failed in space.

1:21.6

Now the pattern has been in the ones that have gone to space,

1:25.6

have been leaks and failures of control.

1:29.2

So two of these in January and March broke up over the Caribbean, rather spectacularly.

1:34.5

I've seen video of that.

1:36.1

And the other one made it to the area of the Indian Ocean and suffered a propellant leak and broke up in a reentry.

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