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everything secure. I'm John Bats for visiting with Enrique Gustenaga, Professor Enrique

Gustanaga of the University of Portsmouth, the Department Institute of Cosmology and Gravitation,

as well as the Catalina Institute for Space Studies in Barcelona and the Space Studies Institute in Barcelona.

We're dealing with a forthcoming book, Black Hole Universe, that is a fresh understanding of some of the

phenomena that right now challenge our understanding of cosmology.

Enrique, forgive me for going to the edge, but I believe if I picture your presentation,

there is something that started as a big bang bounce, as a bounce, something.

Yeah.

And the expansion then accelerated somewhere in between then and now.

So it's going faster, not slower.

But at the edge of matter and dark matter and dark energy.

At the edge, what's beyond it?

Nothing?

What's out there?

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