Hot and Sour Egg Drop Soup, Cooking with Lemons, and Iterating on Dishes with Marc Johnson

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Food, Arts, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Dave completes his Greek avgolemono-to-Chinese sour egg drop soup journey with a final iteration of lemony chicken soup. He makes it for a friend of the show, culinary consultant on Dinner Time Live, Marc Johnson.Marc and Dave talk about the process of getting a dish from its initial to its final version, how they met, Marc's career path, and Marc's recent marathon.They also compare their different ways of thinking about food and how they develop dishes when faced with constraints.Watch Dinner Time Live: https://www.netflix.com/title/81748864 Learn more about Congee NYC: https://congeenyc.com/Learn more about Cafe Boulud: https://cafeboulud.com/nyc/ Learn more about Blue Hill Farm: https://www.bluehillfarm.com/ Learn more about Majordomo: https://www.majordomo.com/ Learn more about Sézanne: https://www.sezanne.tokyo/ Learn more about The Chairman: https://www.thechairmangroup.com/ Learn more about WING: https://wingrestaurant.hk/ Learn more about Barbs B Q: https://www.barbsbq.com/ Learn more about Black's BBQ: https://www.blacksbbq.com/ Learn more about Kreuz Market: https://www.kreuzmarket.com/ Learn more about Hill Country: https://www.hillcountry.com/ Learn more about Sushi Sonagi: https://www.exploretock.com/sushi-sonagi-gardena/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	All right, today I have my friend, chef Mark Johnson, and I'm going to serve him of the culmination of dishes I've been working on on the DCS lab.
0:15.5	We're going to take one chicken, and we're going to go from Greece to China and a few other countries in between,
0:22.3	and I'm going to confuse the hell out of this guy right here.
0:25.2	Stay tuned.
0:40.3	Join today with my good friend.
0:42.1	We used to work together.
0:48.6	You've probably seen him in this studio doing dinner time live as a quote-unquote culinary consultant producer.
0:50.9	Mark Johnson.
0:55.6	You might have seen him just finish the L.A. Marathon under four hours.
0:58.3	Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
0:59.6	Unbelievable.
1:00.4	I'll take that.
1:04.7	Mark is the most Asian white guy I know.
1:06.1	You are.
1:09.6	I don't know.
1:11.6	There's not like a federation of... Well, you know, they've kicked me out of the club, but my last meeting, we were talking about you quite a bit.
1:18.6	And I feel like, again, I was joking, you were going to lose some Asian card points by running this marathon.
1:24.6	But you did it's under four hours.
1:27.6	Yep. Which is why at any time you excel, you did great.
1:32.7	So you're here because I need to feed somebody as well. And you've actually not sat down in this.
1:44.0	You've sat down in the chair over there.
1:47.1	And I'm going to make you something that started way back when with what was the first dish we're
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