Love this podcast. Support this show through the ACAST supporter feature. It's up to you how much you give and there's noiky. I love eating as much as anything else in the world. But also, it sometimes brings me conflict, shame and all sorts of other things that are rubbish. It's complicated and I think fascinating. This is a conversation with an interesting soul, not just about food, but about gobbling it up, or if you will, Hoover.

This week I'm talking to a comedian from across the pond who seems like she's riding some sort of career rocket at the moment.

Off of Frankie Boyle's show, live at the Apollo, and have I got news for you, and the rest of the

whole of comedy on telly. It's Desiree Birch. We talk NYC, L.A., New Orleans and Lewisham. We hear

the whole of the epic and wonderful pizza night story.

We invent party grains and we laugh, probably to the point where it's annoying.

Sorry.

And Desire's answer to my last question makes me go full chew backer.

Here we go.

Let's try some of the hyviscous.

Okay.

I mean, I don't know if you wanted to save this for a moment in the recording.

Let's do this now.

All right, because it seems super yummy.

You pick your piece, whatever you like.

Okay, so we've got a piece of toast with some hibiscus jam on it.

I didn't even know that's how you pronounce it.

Yeah.

Your friend made.

Yeah, my friend Tammy made this because she's now looking for work and she's an incredible human being she does lots of like human

rights stuff and like whatever and she decided he's saying she's unemployed so she's got time to

make jam yeah she's incredible she can't get a job here because everyone would rather just have

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