Love this podcast. Support this show through the ACAST supporter feature. It's up to you how much you give and there's noiky. I love eating as much as anything else in the world. But also, it sometimes brings me conflict, shame and all sorts of other things that are rubbish. It's complicated and I think fascinating. This is a conversation with an interesting soul,

not just about food, but about gobbling it up, or if you will, Poovery.

This week I'm talking to a sublime comedian who also happens to be a man who takes a disarming amount of joy from food and cooking.

It's Carl Donnelly. He's a vegan and so passionate about food, so we do get pretty plant heavy in this episode.

We talk spicy rice addictions, Carl tells us about nibbling solid alcohol,

and I ask hard-edged, beautifully crafted questions like, is a egg a dairy? Let's get into it.

We've made each other something to eat, but basically, I wanted to say that, I think, first of all,

when I did your podcast, these are the, one of the reasons why I'm so grateful that you're doing

this is when I did your podcast with Chris incidentally we ate something

in the middle of it and it was the first time

I'd ever tried a flat peach

How good were they?

And they were amazing

And I was like, this guy knows

These guys know they're eating

If they've introduced me to a flat peach

And then we did some gigs together in Switzerland.

And you were...

Actually, that's by the buy.

But I remember you saying to me that one of your favourite late night snacks is like some paprika fried plantain.

And I was like, this man is properly swanky, like really fucking swanky at food.

Well, I've got plantain in the fruit bowl, yeah.

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