Love this podcast. Support this show through the ACAST supporter feature. It's up to you how much you give and there's noiky. I love eating as much as anything else in the world. But also, it sometimes brings me conflict, shame and all sorts of other things that are rubbish. It's complicated and I think fascinating. This is a conversation with an interesting soul, not just about food, but about gobbling it up, or if you will, hoovery.

This week I'm talking to a comedian who's absolutely smashing it at the moment.

Susie Ruffle.

I rustle up a brunch with some scrambled tofu and she gifts me a tiny treat.

I get pretty hardline about the presence of red root veg in liquid form,

but that's nothing compared to when Susie reveals her temperature-themed nemesis.

I accidentally say turgid.

Apologies for that straight up now.

I mean, I can't believe I said it.

In a thing about eating, I said that word.

There's some moving honesty about anxiety in relation to eating.

And if Susie's answer to my final question doesn't make you hungry,

small heads up, you're dead inside.

I've made you a brunch. It's the morning time. It is. Can I start eating now? Yes, please.

Okay. It's a vegan brunch. It is some avocados, some rooted spinach, some sourdough, which I'm going to put some olive oil on.

And it scrambled tofu. So the kind of the half warning, and then just some roasted tomatoes.

The half warning about the tofu is that it's no, it's a substitute in terms of protein for scrambled eggs.

But it doesn't taste anything like scrambled eggs.

How much would it offend you if I put some chili on that?

No, not at all.

I was really, um, you were worried about how? No, not at all. I was really...

You were worried about how ficedy I could take it.

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