Love this podcast. Support this show through the ACAST supporter feature. It's up to you how much you give and there's noiky. I love eating as much as anything else in the world. But also, it sometimes brings me conflict, shame and all sorts of other things that are rubbish. It's complicated and I think fascinating. This is a conversation with an interesting soul, not just about food, but about gobbling it up, or if you will, poof me.

Hello, I can't thank you enough for your lovely emails. Some of them have been so kind, I've nearly blubbed.

If you are enjoying these podcasts, then know that I'm both glad and grateful. I'm working my

pajamas off on them, and they're being in joy to make. Anyway, it's been my goal since the start of

this, to branch out from just talking to comedians, magical and gloriously open wounds

that they are, and talk to some other people with special relationships to food. I mean that

basically includes anyone, doesn't it? But I thought best to start with the obvious. A chef.

And not just any old chef. One off of the telly and off of real life. John Gregory Smith.

His latest book is all about Moroccan cuisine, and it's absolutely brilliant.

He was kind enough to make me brunch in his beautiful North London flat.

So I don't think about comedy all the time.

But how often do you think about food?

I think about food all the time.

I do think about food quite a lot.

Yeah. I find obviously just the basic three meals a day and like chucking a few snacks.

Yeah, please. And I do that quite, especially when I'm with my family, I'll do that thing where we'll be eating breakfast and talking about lunch.

We'll do lunch, talking about dinner. And that's like, that I just love that.

Yeah.

I think it's really nice.

I mean,

you have like really serious conversations

whilst you're sort of like

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