Love this podcast. Support this show through the ACAST supporter feature. It's up to you how much you give and there's noiky. I love eating as much as anything else in the world. But also, it sometimes brings me conflict, shame and all sorts of other things that are rubbish. It's complicated and I think fascinating. This is a conversation with an interesting soul,

not just about food, but about gobbling it up, or if you will, poof me.

This week, I'm talking to comedian and co-host of the excellent podcast self-renovators

Caroline Maybe. I managed to offend Caroline within seconds of I'm talking to comedian and co-host of the excellent podcast self-renovators, Caroline,

maybe. I managed to offend Caroline within seconds of starting the episode, and my regret is so

solid you could almost eat that. But we quickly recover. We talk about pinpricks leading to soft spots.

I learn all about Kelly Wellie, and Caroline tells an insane story about the time she drank

something that could have set her heart alight. We cover thinness, make pretend restaurants and

cheese. So much cheese. I'll shut up so we can get on with it. So normally at the beginning

we've brought each other something to eat but actually we've um we've cooked

something together we did so nice sweet potato sad aloo where did you get the recipe from

the internet oh and we can put green chilies on it yeah i like to put even more lemons.

I'm very, I get very anxious at this moment when the food I've recommended.

Do you?

It's tasted.

Well, I noticed as we were cooking at, you're a perfectionist.

Oh, Rafi disagrees and is... Well, that's not a bad thing, that's like a chef'sy thing, isn't it?

Um...

Mmm.

It's delicious.

Is it really?

It's really yummy. I love the lemonyness.

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