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How's your day going?

You know, I've been doing this thing because I'm trying to reconnect with nature.

Good.

Always day.

We drop our daughter off at school together and then I walk home with my son and the dog.

And it's hard to make that time happen for my schedule.

And I have it stack it with, you know, doing research or having a call or something. But I just am really proud that I've been able to integrate that. I'm also very lucky I live in California. But I'm proud that I've been able to integrate some outdoor time into my like busy schedule. For you. I mean, it's those, it's those micro you know it's like finding it's not even a micro moment I mean it's a full on walk but do you know what I mean it's not like it's not it's not like it's not like a dog and going to like a park for a hike or something you're integrating it into what you're already your life and what you already do. And that's huge in something I like

to talk about because otherwise everything just feels like too much. It does feel like too much.

And it's like, you know, flow so nicely into like what you guys do and how the herbs are so

helpful in everyday life. But I think that we have,

I listened to another podcast that you were on the other day.

And I think that we all have this attitude that like,

you know, this day and age, it's like so hard.

And like, 60 years ago was really hard.

A hundred years ago was a thousand years ago,

it was totally normal to die during childbirth.

Like, you know, if you had three kids,

you'd be lucky if one of them survived.

So I'm just like, I feel so grateful to be alive.

I feel so grateful for my hell.

And then I think that if we stop making everything super complicated and feel really overwhelming,

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