Hey, this is Mateo Lane. I'm Emma Wilman, and this is inside the closet. Inside the closet.

All right, we are back for another episode of Inside the Closets.

It's hot and sweaty in New York City. I feel gross. You look great. Thank you. I was on

grinder earlier talking to some guy and I always do this thing where I'm like, yeah, I don't really I'm not into hook-ups but I mean I don't mean that you

say it on grinder yeah but then we exchange phone numbers and I don't know yeah

because grinder it's like you're giving yourself away that you that's why you go on

grinder right for hooking up well I mean some people go on

there for friends which makes no sense you go to the but yes they do oh really they

they do and then their pictures like their anus yeah that's like a soft pitch for oh I'm just here for friends and then you're trying to like feel it out. No one goes I told I told this girl I was dating once I was on okay

Cupid for friends but what I really meant was I'm trying to cheat on you and you caught me on

okay cupid and then I was like wait why were you on okay cupid and then we had a

whole thing? Well I mean okay cupids that's that's pretty embarrassing. I

loved okay cupid. It's so much work. I mean it makes sense because at the time my guess that was it was like the free dating site and then everyone it was like oh the online dating used to be so shame-based.

I remember when OKCuba came out, I was at my cousin's house,

she's a month younger than me.

And her and I, of course, were lonely losers,

basically dating each other.

And I was like- You and your and your cousin yeah and so I told

her I was like oh my god Kelly I found about this website called okay Cuba we like

snuck away from our aunt and uncle and like went on to and she went on this day oh oh, it's like 22.

But I remember that it was shame-based and now, I was, no, it was 24,

but now it's like it's the only way to do it, I feel.

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