'Homegrown: ISIS in America'
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🗓️ 16 November 2020
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
The Islamic State in America is a topic that once garnered front-page headlines, but it has fallen a bit out of public attention in the past year or so. Jacob Schulz sat down with Seamus Hughes, the author with Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens and Bennett Clifford of "Homegrown: ISIS in America." They talked about the book, how the Islamic State has attracted American followers, how the organization operates differently in the U.S. versus Europe, the FBI and the role it plays in countering homegrown extremism, and what Seamus is most concerned about going forward.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:29.6 | If you can't encourage them to come over here, then you need to encourage them to come |
| 0:36.8 | in an attack in your hometown. |
| 0:38.8 | So what we saw was a hand holding, right? |
| 0:41.6 | So an individual in Ohio reached out to a guy named Janate Hussein who was a prominent |
| 0:47.0 | British ISIS member and said, you know, I'm thinking about joining ISIS, what should |
| 0:50.5 | I do? |
| 0:51.7 | Janate said, you know, what you should do is kill a military officer in Ohio. |
| 0:56.8 | And here's a link to an Amazon link to buy a knife to behead him. |
| 1:01.4 | Here's how you should drop the video on telegram to us when you're done. |
| 1:05.5 | And once you're done that, maybe we can talk about you joining the Islamic State. |
| 1:09.3 | And so we had, I don't know, something north of 26 deadly attacks in the US, a not insignificant |
| 1:16.3 | number of those people were tied to this legion of doom in Syria, hand holding these |
| 1:22.5 | Americans. |
| 1:23.5 | And in fact, once DOD and the FBI connected together and started systematically killing |
| 1:29.4 | these people and taking them off the battlefield, we saw the number of plots in the US dramatically |
| 1:33.6 | dropped. |
| 1:34.6 | I'm Jacob Schultz and this is the LawFair podcast, November 16, 2020. |
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