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The Lawfare Podcast

Job Openings in Al Qaeda

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🗓️ 17 November 2020

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

The world’s most dangerous job apparently has a vacancy once again. Al Qaeda’s #2 reportedly has been killed in Iran by Israeli forces acting on U.S. intelligence. In addition, there are some rumors about Al Qaeda's #1, Ayman al-Zawahri, also passing into the hereafter. To talk about the reports and the rumors, Benjamin Wittes spoke with Lawfare's foreign policy editor, Brookings scholar and Georgetown professor Daniel Byman.

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And this is something as your question indicated.

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The United States has been doing since 9-11.

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It's been trying to go after not just the bin Laden's,

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not just the people who plant bombs,

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but the senior recruiters, the senior trainers, the senior planners.

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And these are the people that gave al-Qaeda its depth

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that made it such a dangerous organization.

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Using one of the reasons that al-Qaeda has been far less effective

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in global operations, my most effective attacks on the US and attacks on Europe

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is because people like al-Masri have been killed or otherwise taken out of the game.

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And so this is part of the US strategy is to go after a fairly broad swath of these people

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and it's been fairly effective in the relatively narrow terms we're talking about for counterterrorism.

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I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast, November 17th, 2020.

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The world's most dangerous job apparently has a vacancy once again.

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Al-Qaeda's number two has reportedly been killed in Iran by Israeli forces acting on US intelligence.

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In addition, there are some rumors about Al-Qaeda's number one.

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