Hi, welcome back to the Personality Hacker Podcast. My name is Joel Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonio Dodge. So we are in a season of busyness right now. I mean we're always in a season of

business but my God like we're squeezing in this podcast recording in between

an appointment this morning and one that's coming out this afternoon. We're in a season of producing a new pro,

we're producing an I.T.X program for I.J.

and I.J. and I.P. So we're in the middle of like recording

and taking notes and making sure that's a really quality program

and that's coming out a little bit.

So it's just occupying our space and our mindset and all this stuff.

And plus we've got other things we're doing.

We're growing Personality Hacker and we're doing all this stuff and I

I think Antonio and I you've been we've kind of like had these little snippy moments

back and forth. My sons are here right now visiting for two weeks. We have you know family obligations. We're going to be

traveling next week. It's just a bunch of stuff's happening and one of the things that we

keep doing we'll keep talking about between Tony and myself is this idea of

holding space for each other we get a lot of like funny comments about this

phrase holding space because we've talked about in the past and And we say it all the time.

Yeah.

It's in like literally every podcast.

And to a point where somebody turned it into a drinking game.

And they were like every time Jol Antonio say, hold space,

you have to take a shot.

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