Hey, welcome back to the Personality Hacker Podcast. My name is Joel Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonio Dodge. Over the last couple of weeks, we've been preparing a program that we're about to release called

I. TX. Unleashed. And the program is basically a series of interviews with top

performing I. NTPs and INTJ's people who are at the top of their game and are doing

extremely well in their field and the interviews are to get their wisdom,

what are the things they did

to become the best version of their type

as INTJs and INTPs.

And one thing keeps coming up over and over and over again in all of these interviews and the

program will be a series of interviews and then our highlights from the

interviews and one thing that keeps coming up in the highlights I think I've

written it down in every

single interview and that is it is so easy to marginalize other people's emotional

experience and act like emotions aren't important until they're happening to you and

then all of a sudden they become the most important thing in the world like

especially as a thinker and this is really resonating with me as an ENCP. It's so easy to look at somebody else's

emotions and go, man, get your crap together. What's the problem? This is not that

difficult. But then when I'm experiencing an emotion, like fear or anxiety or frustration or anger all of

the sudden that emotion becomes top priority for me and I wonder if this is a

thinker phenomenon to marginalize other people's emotional experience, but believe your emotions are the most important.

I don't think it is. I mean, we're talking with these INTs on these interviews, and obviously it's very it's a very appropriate topic for

thinkers and the introverted thinkers we're talking with but I as work as this is

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