Welcome to the ticket. I'm Isaac Dauver. On election night 2016 I was in the

Javits Center in New York City. It's this big glass convention center on the

west side of Manhattan. Hillary Clinton planned to give her acceptance speech there

and shatter the glass ceiling under a literal glass ceiling.

Of course, she didn't end up giving her speech, but fast forward four years

and the Javits Center was filled with beds turned

into a makeshift emergency hospital at the peak of New York's outbreak.

It was a striking contrast and one that's left me thinking about Secretary Clinton and what she must

be thinking watching this election play out.

What did she think watching President Trump fly to Walter Reed with COVID?

After all, Donald Trump and his conservative allies pummeled her after she contracted pneumonia in September 2016,

and there was that video of her falling over.

So on this week's show, Hillary Clinton joins me, and I asked her. It's a bit incredible to look back on the

2016 race with the rise of Donald Trump, Russian election interference, the

Comey letter, and consider that that was almost a normal election. In the interview you'll hear me

mentioned rolling oranges with the secretary. That's something we in the press

did in those days before 2020. You'd fly around in the same plane as the candidates and when they weren't

offering up the chance to ask a question, sometimes people would write on an orange and

roll it down the aisle to get them in the front of the plane. Sometimes they'd roll

it back. Today being on a plane

with a candidate, let alone bowling fruit to them, doesn't happen because it's

too dangerous. So I've been doing a lot of my reporting on Zoom and stuck in DC for the many months I expected to be out on the trail.

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