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🗓️ 23 October 2020
⏱️ 30 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the ticket. I'm Isaac Dauver. Well the last debate is over and a little |
0:18.0 | over a week will tally the votes and whether he wins or loses will define |
0:21.9 | Donald Trump's story. |
0:23.9 | So I want to go back to the beginning and see if I could get some perspective on the man |
0:27.9 | who's been president these past four years. |
0:30.1 | And that |
0:35.0 | the art of the deal created the deal-maker-business' story, |
0:36.0 | or at least the origin story he wanted told. |
0:39.0 | The art of the deal created the dealmaker businessman persona |
0:42.0 | that Trump rode into reality television and then into the White House. |
0:47.0 | And my guest this week is the man who wrote it. Tony Schwartz. |
0:51.0 | Schwartz has done a lot of soul searching since writing since writing the art of the deal and as a memoir dealing with the devil that explores how and why he got into business with Trump. |
0:59.0 | We talked about what he knows about the president now, when he knew about him then, and what he makes of the character he created. |
1:06.2 | Take a listen. |
1:06.7 | Tony Schwartz, thanks for being here with us on the ticket. |
1:15.0 | Thank you. |
1:17.0 | So let's go back in time here a little bit. |
1:19.8 | Tell us the story of how you came to write the art of the deal? |
1:23.0 | Yeah, it's becoming an origin story now and those stories I always feel like maybe they're |
1:29.6 | not true when other people don't determine. But this one is his best I remember, |
1:34.4 | it is that I was a staff writer at New York magazine |
1:37.7 | in 1985 and I heard about this building |
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