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The Trial

High School Stabbing - Over to the Jury

The Trial

The Crime Desk

True Crime

4.21.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

The jury in the trial of the killer of Harvey Willgoose are now considering their verdict.


They’ve heard all of the evidence and the decision on whether the 15 year old boy on trial is guilty of murder or manslaughter now rests with them. In this episode Caroline and Jack have the final instructions the judge gave them before she told them to start their deliberations.


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Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull


Editor: Chelsea Moore


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Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson


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0:00.0

Hello, I'm currently out of office.

0:04.4

An article I read recently said we're more relaxed and more productive after a good break.

0:14.4

So I've gone to Barbados for a month for science.

0:22.4

Yours, Toby.

0:24.2

Take your holiday as seriously as British Airways holidays take your holiday.

0:29.0

Atul protected.

0:32.6

The trial update.

0:47.2

Welcome to the trial update.

0:49.6

I'm Caroline Cheatham.

0:50.8

And I'm Jack Hardy.

0:57.3

So today we're bringing you just a quick update episode really because the jury in the trial of the boy accused of murdering 15-year-old Harvey Wilgoose has now retired to consider their

1:03.6

verdicts at Sheffield Crown Court.

1:05.1

Now, of course, what they've got to decide is whether the stabbing of Harvey in the

1:10.7

courtyard at All Saints

1:12.1

Catholic High School was murder, or whether, as we've been outlining in terms of what the

1:17.3

evidence has been to this jury, whether it was manslaughter due to a loss of control following

1:23.7

the long history of bullying that was suffered by the boy who's now on trial.

1:29.0

Jack, they were actually sent out this morning, so they've already spent a few hours deliberating,

1:34.0

and in the last few minutes really, they were sent home for the day to come back tomorrow.

1:39.2

Yeah, that's right. So the jury of eight women and four men retired at around 10, 25am,

1:43.8

and then they sat until around 3.30 a.m. and then they sat until

1:44.8

around 3.30 p.m. deliberating. But before they were sent out, they were given not only just to summing up the case by Mrs. Justin Ellen Bogan, who's the judge, but also some legal directions, which we thought we'd bring you a bit of detail on now. So this is effectively a guide to how the jury should be approaching their deliberations.

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