Hidden Gems: Pramipexole Part I
The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast
Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast
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🗓️ 23 February 2026
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Summary
New research moves pramipexole up in the algorithm for treatment resistant depression.
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Published On: 02/23/2026
Duration: 13 minutes, 41 seconds
Chris Aiken, MD, and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP, have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.
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| 0:00.0 | We look at the hidden gems of psychopharmacology, starting with Primapexall. |
| 0:09.2 | Welcome to the Carlythe Psychiatry podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003. |
| 0:15.2 | I'm Chris Aiken, the editor-in-chief of the Carlat Psychiatry Report. |
| 0:18.7 | And I'm Kelly Newsom, a psychiatric MP and a dedicated reader of every issue. |
| 0:23.6 | In 2003, I opened a psychotherapy practice in Western North Carolina. |
| 0:31.6 | I didn't set out to focus on treatment-resistant depression, |
| 0:34.6 | but the problem came to my door, in patient after patient, |
| 0:39.4 | as it does for many in our field. In most towns, people get their first-line psychiatric treatment, |
| 0:46.3 | the SSRI, from primary care, and only come to us if that doesn't work. And for a lot of people, |
| 0:57.0 | it doesn't work. Somewhere between 30 and 60% of patients do not reach full recovery after two or more antidepressant trials. |
| 1:04.0 | That 30 to 60% range comes from different interpretations of the Stardee trial. The fact that it is such a wide range |
| 1:13.8 | tells us something important. Defining meaningful recovery is not an exact science. These patients |
| 1:22.5 | with treatment-resistant depression are really a varied bunch. They include older adults with vascular |
| 1:29.4 | disease, patients with bipolar features, inflammation, insulin resistance, dysthymic temperament, |
| 1:37.8 | childhood trauma, and chronic stress. And I learned pretty quickly in the 2000s that the algorithms we had to treat them, raise the |
| 1:47.2 | antidepressant, switch the class, ad buproprion, buspirone, or a stimulant, were not meeting |
| 1:54.1 | their needs. |
| 1:55.6 | This wasn't like antibiotic resistance, where they just need IV vancomycin or some other magic bullet. |
| 2:03.7 | These depressions I was seeing were complex and needed an approach from many angles, |
| 2:09.9 | lifestyle, nutrition, sleep, medication, psychotherapy, and sometimes neuromodulation. |
| 2:17.8 | The Star Day trial has a step-by-step algorithm for treatment-resistant depression |
| 2:22.8 | that reflects how psychiatry was practiced in the 1990s. |
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