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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Hidden Gems: Pramipexole Part II

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast

Health & Fitness, Alternative Health, Medicine, Mental Health

4.7524 Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2026

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Pramipexole has moved up the in our algorithm for treatment resistant depression. Today, learn how to use this dopamine agonist.

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Published On: 03/02/2026

Duration: 19 minutes, 24 seconds

Chris Aiken, MD, and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP, have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.

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0:00.0

Primapexol has moved up in our algorithm for treatment-resistant depression.

0:04.9

Today, learn how to use this dopamine agonist.

0:12.1

Welcome to the Carlythe Psychiatry Podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003.

0:18.0

I'm Chris Sagan, the editor-in-chief of the Carlat Psychiatry Report. And I'm Kelly Newsom, a

0:22.8

psychiatric MP, and a dedicated reader of every issue. I've spent the past year gathering

0:30.9

every controlled trial I can find on treatment-resistant depression, and when I stepped back

0:36.3

to look at the pile, I saw a concerning

0:38.7

pattern. It was an inverted pyramid. The treatments that are popular at the top are the least

0:45.8

likely to work, while the ones that have the strongest effects fall to the bottom and are very

0:51.9

rarely used. When antidepressants don't work, people switch classes, raise the dose, or add in other

1:00.6

antidepressants or stimulants, benzos, lomotrogen, or buspirone.

1:06.3

If they are following practice guidelines, they'll probably augment with an antipsychotic,

1:11.6

but those medications only work for a few months in what is usually a chronic disorder.

1:17.6

The industry has tried to get approval for antipsychotics as long-term maintenance agents

1:23.6

and depression, but they failed in three out of four large industry-sponsored trials that tested

1:31.4

them for just six months, which the industry defines as long-term. By contrast, lithium worked

1:39.9

long-term in a meta-analysis of 21 controlled trials that lasted an average of two years

1:47.2

in unipolar, not bipolar, but unipolar depression.

1:52.1

And psychotherapy has better long-term results than antidepressants in depression.

1:59.3

But how often do you see a patient with treatment-resistant depression who has tried TMS?

2:05.4

In recent trials, TMS was more effective than pharmacological augmentation.

2:10.5

And how often have they tried accelerated or saint TMS, an accelerated five-day protocol

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