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The Proof with Simon Hill

Hidden Agendas in Science and the Media | Drew Harrisberg

The Proof with Simon Hill

Simon Hill

Nutrition, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement, Education

4.92.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2019

⏱️ 129 minutes

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Summary

In Episode #83, a very good friend of mine, Drew Harrisberg, returned to the show to talk about hidden agendas in science and the media, with specific reference to a few somewhat dangerous trends we have noticed. In this unscripted exchange, Drew and I covered topics including the manipulation of science to produce favourable outcomes and the confusing and oversimplified messages we get from people of influence on social media. We started by chatting about how Drew’s transition to a plant-based diet has played out since Episode 62. We then went on to discuss some specific studies and claims, such as Dr Mark Hyman’s confusing promotion of an extremely conflicted study on the ‘reversal of diabetes’ and Sarah Wilson’s claims about methane and the impact of animal agriculture on climate change. We also talked about the ‘If It Fits Your Macros’ and ‘calorie deficit’ ideologies and why these are oversimplifications – it is possible to look and feel good at the same time without needing to choose one or the other. I hope you found this to be an interesting episode; I certainly did. For more insights and reflections, visit The Proof website for the full show notes. Enjoy, friends. Simon Note: As I allude to throughout this conversation, just because I may hold a differing opinion to someone that doesn’t mean I dislike them or want conflict. I am open to sitting down with any of the people mentioned, or others, to further discuss these ideas and flesh them out with the best available science we have. I hope to have proponents of the ketogenic, If It Fits Your Macros, or the carnivore diet on the show in the future. Want to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends. You can also show your support by leaving a review on the Apple Podcast app and/or sharing your favourite episodes with your friends and family. Simon Hill, Msc, Bsc (Hons) Creator of theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Watch the episodes on YouTube, or Listen on Apple/Spotify Connect with me on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook Download my complimentary two week meal plan and high protein plant performance recipe book

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0:00.0

Hey there, I've got a very quick message to share with you before we jump into the episode.

0:08.1

Let's keep this under 30 seconds, shall we?

0:11.5

This episode is proudly brought to you by Amille.

0:13.7

Amille is a plant-based wellness company focused on formulating evidence-based supplements

0:18.2

to optimize our health.

0:20.0

I personally take Amille's essential aid multi-nutrient to how I start my day, which contains

0:25.0

eight essential nutrients in the right forms and dosages to perfectly complement a plant-rich

0:30.1

diet.

0:31.1

Amille offers no magic pills or hyperbolic claims, just good quality supplements that

0:36.3

we can trust.

0:37.3

To check out Amille and get 10% off your first order, visit theproof.com forward-slash

0:42.5

friends.

0:43.5

I'll pop a link to that in the show notes.

0:49.7

It first puts up the post saying that you can reverse type to diabetes with this groundbreaking

0:53.4

study that we found ketogenic diet blah blah blah.

0:56.2

The very next day, he puts up a post saying that insulin is this driver of infertility

1:02.4

that I remember this.

1:03.4

So he recommends a whole food plant-based diet if you are insulin resistant or have high

1:09.6

insulin levels.

1:11.1

So he's literally just recommended the opposite of the thing that he was talking about the

1:15.8

day before.

1:16.8

To treat the same thing.

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