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Families are complicated. I think actually like a majority of the families are complicated because there's quite a few people on this show that have,

I want to be polite, have unique relationships with parental figures, right?

Mom's dads, etc.

And Katie, you're no, you also have detailed like your relationship with your father.

So what was like the last conversation like

that you guys had?

The last conversation I think that I had

when my father was months ago and it was a hey yeah haven't heard from you

How you doing you doing good all right love you okay bye

You haven't heard from me because you haven't called me exactly and also I want to point

out it was another year that he didn't call me on my birthday but you know again again

he's in this two years in a room.

So when that happens, do you say anything to him at all?

No, I don't know.

Even when he call, like when he finally does call, you're like,

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