Hello and welcome to Radical Cander, a podcast from Panoply and Gretchen Rubin's Onward project

about how not to hate the boss you have or be the boss you hate. I'm Russ Larraway, co-founder of

Cander, Inc. and career-long operational manager across the Marines, Google, and Twitter.

And I'm Kim Scott, co-founder of Cander, Inc. also, former executive at Google and Apple, and

CEO Coach at Twitter, Dropbox, and a bunch of other great companies.

I'm also the author of a radical candor.

So we've got another episode today focused on how not to hate the boss you have.

I think one of the most common complaints about

bosses around the world is micromanaging. You know these people. These are the people who tell

you what to do and how to do it. They are so lost in the details that they don't fully understand

the context. They set arbitrary goals.

They hoard information instead of sharing their context with you. So today, we're going to talk

about what you can do when you have a micromanager boss. Along the way, we're going to share

some cringeworthy micromanager stories. We'll answer a

listener question about whether micromanagement is ever deserved. And we'll finish up with

tips for working with micromanagers in our candor checklist. Let's get started.

Cool. Being micromanaged is unbelievably frustrating.

It is the worst.

The worst.

Well, there's lots of bad things.

It's one of the many bad things.

Honestly, about the worst thing you could do to me in the workplace is micromanage me.

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