Hey, fam. Welcome to the free trail podcast. Of course, I am your loving host Dylan Bowman here today with Heather Jackson,

the former pro triathlete and current pro trail runner and gravel racer who is taking the off-road

endurance world by storm right now. Heather is, of course, just coming off an amazing second place

finish of the Black Canyon 100K, finishing just behind Free Trail Zone,

Keely Henninger, under the previous course record in just her second ever trail ultramarathon.

It was incredible.

We talk all about the race, of course, but we also talk about Heather's personal and professional

renaissance moving from triathlon to gravel and to trail running obviously we

talk specifically about gravel cycling and the gravel scene in general for a bit we talk about

her novel approach to training her racing strategy and of course we look ahead towards western

states in the summer it was a joy joy to have Heather on the show.

I hope you guys all enjoy the conversation.

As always, a big thank you to Speedland, the presenting sponsor of the free trail podcast

and the makers of the new GS-Tam, my signature trail shoe built to go the distance,

but versatile enough and fast enough for your shorter days or your interval sessions.

One thing that I think is especially important to emphasize is the durability of this shoe.

The first prototype of the GS-TAM that I tested many months ago, accumulated more than 600 miles before Dave and Kevin took them

back for me. I have two pairs in my rotation now, each with over 400 miles on them. I use them

every single day and there isn't an end in sight. They've still got tons of life and hundreds of

miles left. So obviously the product

is premium, but it's also a great value. The shoe is retailing for $275. But our beloved free trail

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