Hi everyone and welcome to the best people. Since the government shutdown ended, there's been a renewed focus on releasing the Epstein files to the public. So we thought it would be a good time to re-up one of our favorite episodes of The Best People. We first released back in mid-September with Jess Michaels. Jess is incredible. She's not only a survivor of Jeffrey Epstein's abuse.

She, along with the other victims, has become an advocate for truth and transparency and

justice.

She and her lawyer, Jennifer Freeman, join me to talk about her experience, to tell her story,

and talk about what accountability looks like for her and many of the victims.

We wanted to share her story with you here again to remind everyone of the human toll of Jeffrey

Epstein and Glein Maxwell's crimes. To put things in context, this episode was recorded on

September 9th, the day Jeffrey Epstein's birthday book was first released to the public.

And a note to our listeners, this episode contains discussions around sexual assault,

so please listen with care. With that, this is the best people, and this is Jess Michaels

and Jennifer Freeman.

Literally all of these powerful men and women were looking at us as toys and as jokes and as play

things and didn't see fit to tell anyone or try to stop it.

Hi, everyone, and welcome to the Best People podcast. The Best People are often the ones

going first and telling the truth, especially when that truth is painful. They're not

always women, but we find more often than not, they are. This is the Best People podcast,

and this is Jess Michaels and her attorney, Jennifer Freeman. Thank you both for being here.

Good to be with you. Thank you so much for having me here, Nicole.

I'm so moved by everyone who comes on the show, but I'm only changed by a handful of interviews

and guests, and I was changed by my conversation with you on the show. So that's why I wanted

to have a chance to talk to you a little bit more today. Thank you. That means the world to me.

Thank you. How do you find the courage, not just to survive what you survived at the hands

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