This is here me out. I'm Celeste Hedley. In certain parts of this country, looking at you, Florida, it is now technically illegal to teach systemic racism in a gen ed setting. There's no doubt, and in fact it is an objective truth

that this country fosters racism on a broad systemic level.

And it has done that for a long time.

When we talk about dismantling systemic racism,

it's often hard to know where to begin,

so consider the idea that much of what's wrong in this country

is a product of not just racism, but colonialism specifically

and that colonialism never really ended. And who better to walk us through that idea than a professor

from Florida.

So we might say that it's colonialism in another form,

but it still has colonial impact on the people

who were subjugated, displaced, enslaved, or eliminated.

Barry Mauer of the University of Central Florida joins Hear Me Out once again in just a moment.

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