Hear Me Out: Trump Isn’t a Bug. He's a Feature.

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🗓️ 14 May 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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On today’s episode of Hear Me Out: live from Seattle. Hear Me Out had its first-ever live show on May 4, 2024 — and it was such a great conversation that we wanted to make sure our podcast listeners heard it, too. The Cascade PBS Ideas Festival was full of smart, unconventional thinkers on the biggest issues facing this country… so what better place to have a conversation about Donald Trump, and the future of this country? It’s tempting to think of the MAGA ideology as an unprecedented threat to democracy. But is it? Or are the authoritarian, anti-democratic ideas percolating into our mainstream politics a feature, rather than a bug? Historian and author Heather Cox Richardson joined us in Seattle. If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: [email protected] Podcast production by Maura Currie. Want more Hear Me Out? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Or, visit slate.com/hearmeoutplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is Here Me Out. I'm Celeste Hedley. On May 4th, Hear Me Out had its first ever live show at the Cascade
0:08.3	PBS Ideas Festival in Seattle. The festival was chock full of smart creative people weighing in on the big
0:16.6	issues facing our country so we thought there was really no better venue for a conversation
0:22.0	about Donald Trump. Now it's tempting to
0:24.6	think of him and his followers as an unprecedented movement representing
0:29.5	ideologies that have never before hit the mainstream.
0:33.0	But our guest at Cascade Ideas warns us,
0:36.0	this is not new.
0:37.0	In fact, this is what the founders built into the Constitution
0:40.0	and it's not a bug, it's a feature.
0:43.0	How do we convince people that the story of America is not the story of
0:49.4	minority rule and the imposition of religion, race, property, whatever on the rest of us and that this in fact is our history.
1:00.0	People stepping up to the plate and saying, God damn it, this is the country I want to live in.
1:05.0	Historian and author Heather Cox Richardson joins me on Hear Me Out
1:11.0	in just a moment.
1:12.0	We'll be right back.
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