Hear Me Out: Actually, Trump Supporters Are Delusional

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🗓️ 30 January 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… folie à deux (again). A few weeks ago, Frank Buckley joined us to argue that Trump voters aren’t delusional. And a lot of you disagreed. One of you, though, turned out to be an expert in the nature of delusion. So who better to join us, and make the case that we got it wrong? Barry Mauer, a Hear Me Out listener and associate professor at the University of Central Florida, joins us to argue that the pro-Trump movement isn’t just delusional — it’s dangerous, it’s a cult, and it has to be called what it is. If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: [email protected] Podcast production by Maura Currie. You can skip all the ads in Hear Me Out by joining Slate Plus! Sign up now at slate.com/hearmeoutplus for just $15 a month for your first three months. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is Hear Me Out. I'm Celeste Hedley. At the time of this recording, Donald Trump has handily won two Republican primaries and it seems likely he'll keep winning.
0:11.0	For the last nine years or so, you've probably heard and read countless profiles of the
0:15.7	Trump voter explaining his appeal for those on the left who never understood it.
0:21.1	But this is a different world than we lived in back in 2016.
0:24.6	And in part that's because we've already lived through one Trump presidency, but we need to keep talking
0:30.3	about the mindset of Trump voters if we want to have any idea of where this country is going
0:34.8	and whether he can do it as one nation. A few weeks ago we had a guest argue that Trump
0:39.6	supporters are not delusional this week. This week...
0:43.0	There's this kind of false dualism that's put forward that says, well, the parties are
0:48.4	mirrored images of each other left and right.
0:51.0	They're not.
0:51.7	The other side is perpetrating a crime against society
0:55.2	by trying to tear down knowledge and truth. Barry Maower, associate professor
1:00.0	at the University of Central Florida, joins us in just a moment. Stay with us.
1:10.0	Welcome back to Hear Me Out. I'm Celeste Hedley.
1:13.0	This week is a first in Hear Me Out history.
1:15.0	Usually we reach out to people whose work we come across and find interesting,
1:19.0	but this time the guest came to us,
1:22.0	because they're a listener and they thought we got it wrong.
1:26.7	A few weeks ago we talked to author and professor Frank Buckley.
1:30.3	He argued that Trump voters are not delusional or stupid but are acting on their
1:35.5	information they have and their personal values. We got an avalanche of
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