If we're talking about numbers, we're about like that 40 to 50K MRR now.

So it's not that, it's not that big.

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Hey folks. My guest today is Patrick Inzinger. He's an independent designer, entrepreneur,

and startup advisor with a passion for product and interface design.

In addition to more

than 17 years of working with brands like the Reds Carlton, Porsche, Red Bull, and others,

and multiple successful startups on over the world, he's also the founder of a healthcare

company called Appointment Med. It's practice management software for healthcare professionals. Patrick,

you ready to take us to the top? Yes, let's go. All right, why is a forward-thinking product-led guy like you going into healthcare, a very slow, stodgy industry?

Yeah, funny that you ask.

I'm doing a lot of those industry design things, basically.

So I did a lot of work in the online banking industry.

I did a lot of work in the insurance industry and all of that is very

complex and slow and old basically. And actually the team that I have with appointment now is the same team that we tried to build a sort of in a financial sector back in 2000, I don't know, 2011 or something like that.

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