Healing In Men (Part 3) w/ Devin Schadt
Restore The Glory Podcast
Jake Khym
4.9 • 971 Ratings
🗓️ 1 April 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
This week, Jake and Bob continue their series and welcome Devin Schadt, founder of the Fathers of St. Joseph, to explore the journey of becoming a man through suffering, healing, and self-giving love. Devin shares his powerful story of childhood wounds, addiction, and broken relationships, and how an unexpected encounter and a profound experience of God's mercy began to transform his life. They also discuss how unmet needs for affirmation can drive men toward the false promises of the world, how true identity is restored through relationship with God the Father, and the masculine call to sacrificial love.
Key Points:
- Wounds created in childhood can shape how we perceive our identity as adults.
- When we don't root our identity in the Father, we turn to the things of this world that will not fulfil the human heart: prestige, prominence, power, profit, possessions, and pleasure.
- Our sins often flow from unmet needs.
- Marriage exposes and refines the heart.
- Self-giving love within marriage and family life is true masculinity.
- Devin began to experience growth when he accepted his "littleness" instead of running from it.
- Our limitations allow God's strength to be revealed more clearly.
- Spiritual battles often begin with doubting the Father's love for us.
- It is important men know they belong to the Father and that they are beloved sons.
Resources:
- Devin's Ministry: Fathers of St. Joseph
- CUSTOS by Devin Schadt
- The Rule by Devin Schadt
- Fourplay by Devin Schadt - Coming Soon!
- The Catholic Gentleman Podcast
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:40 From Childhood Abuse to Finding Jesus
15:41 Discovering the Meaning of Self Giving Love
23:09 Acting Out of Pain and Embracing Our Littleness
32:49 Loving Without Expecting Anything in Return
41:13 Remedies for the Wounds Many Men Experience
49:01 The Fathers of St. Joseph
51:32 Resources
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Restore the Glory podcast. I'm Jake Kim. And I'm Bob Schutz. |
| 0:07.8 | We're two Catholic ministry leaders and former psychotherapists talking about healing, restoration, |
| 0:13.3 | and everything we've learned in our personal and professional lives. And integrating our Catholic |
| 0:17.4 | faith into everything that we do. All right, Bob. Let's get into it. |
| 0:23.2 | Bob, good to be with you again. |
| 0:29.2 | We're continuing on here in our series on Healing and Men, and we have another amazing guest with us. |
| 0:30.1 | We want us to introduce him. |
| 0:31.6 | Yeah, I'm really happy to have Devin on. |
| 0:34.7 | Devin Shatt, and he is the founder of the Fathers of St. Joseph, which is his ministry. |
| 0:42.9 | And the author of way more books than I knew about, actually. |
| 0:46.8 | I have read a couple of his books and reviewed an upcoming one. |
| 0:50.4 | But just you've been a prolific writer, Devin, and I've also watched you on some |
| 0:57.8 | episodes of the Catholic gentleman. And we've had maybe a handful of interactions, but they've been |
| 1:05.7 | really deep and beautiful. And, you know, when I see a man who has gone through a lot and has only grown in love for Jesus through it all, it just gives me a lot of respect. |
| 1:18.2 | And so I have a lot of respect for what I know about you, Devin. |
| 1:21.5 | And so welcome. |
| 1:22.8 | Thank you very much. |
| 1:24.0 | And the feeling is mutual. |
| 1:25.4 | I respect both of you too immensely and your podcast has had |
| 1:29.5 | powerful effect in my life. Yeah, grateful to hear that. So tell us a little bit about you, |
| 1:35.9 | you know, just give us some of the backstory. Yeah. Well, I mean, currently I've been married for 30 |
| 1:43.6 | years just to put this in perspective, and I have a wonderful wife and five daughters. I'm surrounded by women. As one guy said, you're like Blessed Virgin Mary. You're blessed among women. So that has its challenge in its own right, but it's very wonderful. |
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