Healing In Men (Part 4) w/ Paul George

Restore The Glory Podcast

Jake Khym

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 971 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

This week, Jake and Bob conclude their series and welcome Paul George, founder of The Art of Living Ministry. They explore the interior journey of a man learning to face his wounds, surrender control, and become who God created him to be. Paul shares his personal story— from childhood wounds and self-sufficiency to finding healing through marriage, prayer, and mentorship. They also discuss how unresolved pain can shape a man's identity, how it affects his relationships, and why vulnerability is the doorway to intimacy and freedom.

Key Points:

Paul's childhood experiences, especially his parents' divorce, deeply influenced his identity and relational patterns. He developed a strong sense of independence that later became a barrier to intimacy.
Marriage exposes unresolved wounds and emotional barriers.
Self-sufficiency often times is a mask that covers the inability to receive someone else's love.
Growth begins with recognizing patterns in your life and asking God why they exist.
Many men believe they will never change which leads to resignation and feeling stuck.
It is important not to dwell on "what if's" or regrets about the past.
Being vulnerable with your spouse and opening up about your wounds is an important step to deepening intimacy.
Both spouses must learn to love each other's brokenness.
A man must take responsibility for his growth rather than blaming others.
Change doesn't erase the impact of past behavior on loved ones.
A man's (and woman's) ultimate call is to love sacrificially, especially when it's difficult or unseen.

Resources:

Paul's Website
Paul's Ministry: The Art of Living
The Paul George Show
Paul's Books
Redeemed Men's Conference with the JPII Healing Center

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

03:03 Paul's Story & Early Wounds

10:55 Spiritual Fatherhood & Mentorship

12:30 Ministry Through Sports

14:00 Trapped in Regret & "What Ifs"

18:24 Learning to Trust God's Provision

27:54 The Power of Self-Awareness

40:43 Inviting Your Spouse into Wounds

53:02 Why Growth Requires Struggle

56:06 Paul's Ministry & Resources

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0:00.0	Welcome to Restore the Glory podcast.
0:05.0	I'm Jake Kim.
0:07.0	And I'm Bob Schutz.
0:08.0	We're two Catholic ministry leaders and former psychotherapists talking about healing, restoration,
0:13.0	and everything we've learned in our personal and professional lives.
0:16.0	And integrating our Catholic faith into everything that we do.
0:19.0	All right, Bob. Let's get into it.
0:22.5	Welcome back, listeners.
0:27.2	Bob, we're in a series, and this is the last part of our series,
0:33.9	four men, about men, et cetera, and we have one more good friend, dear guest, who's with us?
0:35.3	So, Bob, who do we have with us today?
0:42.3	Yeah, it's a joy to introduce Paul George, who many people know from his work around the country, a host for the Steubenville conferences for years. I've met him and Gretchen probably 25 years ago or so.
0:49.3	And so he was still a young man. I was about his age now, right? Yeah, probably.
0:55.0	Just been a good friend, and he was on our board for a while at John Paul II Healing Center,
1:01.0	and then he got off the board so he could do men's ministry with John Edwards, who was one of our earlier guests.
1:08.0	And so, yeah, I'd just delight to have you, Paul. Yeah, it's great to be with
1:13.4	you guys, honestly. Good to see you, Jake, Bob. Yeah. And Paul, we have been acquaintances,
1:21.4	I guess, for a lot of years of always hearing about each other, you know, I'm in Denver, I think, and, you know,
1:29.6	connections with the Ben Singers and just all kinds of, so it's an honor to be with you,
1:34.2	and it's been cool. I feel a kindred brotherly spirit with you, like another brother out there
1:40.1	who's spent and devoted his whole life and marriage to full-time ministry.
1:45.9	You know, sometimes it can seem glorious, but then you learn about the real day-to-day life of it.
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