Hey friends, welcome to the Rhythms for Life Podcast where each week we talk about four rhythms

that help you reduce stress and anxiety and take charge of your emotional health. Rest,

restore, connect, create. These ideas come from Rebecca's best-selling book,

Rhythms of Renewal, trading stress and anxiety for a life of peace and purpose. So,

grab your copy, invite your friends, and let's live in rhythm.

Welcome back, I'm Rebecca. And I'm Gabe. We are well into May aren't we Gabe? I know.

Kids are home, Pierce is home from college, which we are loving. I'm having under, like,

of what the full nest, I'm cooking a lot, I'm just making food all the time, even if the kids are

are or are not hungry. Well, and the spring represents a lot more work outside. Yes it does. So

chickens to the gardens and weeds and landscaping and grass, I mean, it's full on. So we're in

that mode, but it's fun too, because it's warm. And school is out pretty soon for a lot of people.

So I know, I don't know how other parents are handling this, but I feel like I'm racing to

the finish line of like, what are the things that I can squeeze into that school day? I know.

So that summer can have a little bit of a different rhythm, which will really value a year.

We do, and I encourage all of you, like the summer rhythm is a different rhythm.

Like obviously it doesn't work the same if you do have smaller children that are in school.

It just gives you new opportunities, a fresh look at the new year, a chance to take inventory,

which Rebecca always has helped us think about is how do we just take inventory of what's working,

what's right, what's wrong, what's missing. So we'd encourage you to have those kinds of

conversations. Today I'm excited because you're going to get to hear a conversation we had with

esteemed counselor and author and expert Dan Allender, as well as Kathy Lurzel, who wrote a book

called Redeeming Heartache. And they're focused. And in our conversation, we're very focused on

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