HEADLINE: Taiwanese Influencer Charged for Threatening President; Mainland Chinese Influence Tactics ExposedGUEST NAME: Mark Simon SUMMARY: John Batchelor speaks with Mark Simon about internet personality Holger Chen under investigation in Taiwan for call
The John Batchelor Show
John Batchelor
4.5 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 9 October 2025
⏱️ 11 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBSI on the world. |
| 0:06.1 | I'm John Bachelor with Gordon Chang, my colleague and friend, |
| 0:09.4 | and Gordon's introducing me to the world of influencers. |
| 0:12.8 | I know very little about it in America, |
| 0:14.9 | except for when you make the claim, nobody checks it. |
| 0:17.6 | You just show up as an influencer. |
| 0:19.9 | It's odd, but I'm of an age that it doesn't really touch me. |
| 0:25.1 | My idea of being influenced is reading the Milwaukee Tool catalog. |
| 0:28.6 | Okay, I'm old-fashioned. |
| 0:30.2 | However, there is an influencer I learn from Top A Times who's out of control or being controlled, unclear. |
| 0:38.8 | We're joined by Mark Simon to help us translate all of these matters. |
| 0:43.3 | He's in Taiwan, and this is the Taipei Times, the capital of Taiwan, and the man's name |
| 0:49.4 | is Holger Chen. |
| 0:51.7 | And I'll read the headline because it requires a lot of attention. |
| 0:56.0 | Streamer probe for calling for the decapitation of lie. |
| 1:00.5 | The Criminal Investigation Bureau yesterday said it was investigating Internet personality, |
| 1:06.2 | Holger Chen, after he allegedly called for the decapitation of President William Lye during a live stream |
| 1:13.7 | on Sunday. Mark, this man, Hoger Chen. I meet him for the first time. There's a photograph of him |
| 1:20.5 | and above him in the sky. I guess this is his internet broadcast is the word notorious. Who the heck is he? |
| 1:28.5 | Good evening to you, Mark. |
| 1:35.1 | Good evening. How are you, gentlemen? Hoger has been around for a while here in Taipei. He shows up at various pro-KMT events, anything where he can get attention. For Americans, he is kind of the classic look at me influencer, not very bright in some of his statements. |
| 1:50.0 | He went over the line by just Taipei cultural and legal standards, I think, calling for the decapitation of the president. |
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