HEADLINE: Political Crises Deepen in Brazil and Venezuela Amidst US Pressure GUEST AND TITLE: Alejandro Peña Esclusa, Venezuelan writer and thinker; Ernesto Araújo, former Foreign Minister of the Republic of Brazil SUMMARY: Ernesto Araújo discusses form
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🗓️ 16 September 2025
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GUEST AND TITLE: Alejandro Peña Esclusa, Venezuelan writer and thinker; Ernesto Araújo, former Foreign Minister of the Republic of Brazil
SUMMARY: Ernesto Araújo discusses former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro's conviction for an alleged assassination plot, calling it a "show trial" despite a dissenting judge's opinion. He notes Bolsonaro's failed anti-system movement. Alejandro Peña Esclusa reports a US military buildup near Venezuela, fostering internal military discussions about turning in Maduro. Both believe their countries' fates are linked; Venezuela's liberation could expose a crime network, potentially delegitimizing Lula's regime and fostering broader Latin American freedom.1951
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| 0:24.0 | This is CBS. I am the world. I'm John Baxter. I welcome my good colleagues, Alejandro Pena |
| 0:29.8 | Excluza, a Venezuelan writer and thinker. He is in Europe. And Ernesto Arruzo, former foreign minister of the Republic of Brazil, he is in Africa. |
| 0:42.1 | We are both observing events and news reports out of the Americas these last days that are, to say the least, extremely threatening. |
| 0:51.6 | We come to the first news of the day, the health of Jarabelsenaro, |
| 0:56.1 | the former president of Brazil, and at one time Ernesto's boss on the cabinet. |
| 1:02.4 | Brazil's Bolsonaro has skin lesions removed without complications, the hospital says. This is dated |
| 1:08.5 | within 24 hours. |
| 1:16.6 | Erjara Bousanero's big news is the trial that was concluded with a conviction in a sentence last week for the allegation of leading an assassination coup plot against the elected |
| 1:23.4 | government of Lula de Silva. Ernesto, there were no surprises except one in the process of what looked to be a show |
| 1:31.8 | trial. |
| 1:32.7 | One of the judges voted not guilty. |
| 1:36.5 | Is that significant given what we presume to be the guilty verdict was built into the proceedings. Good evening to you. |
| 1:46.5 | Good evening, John. Yes, no surprises, but the decision or the opinion by a single judge, yes, that was a surprise in a way. Well, the rush to finish the trial was already a surprise. |
| 2:02.4 | Last week, I said it would take maybe until two weeks, and it was over last week. |
| 2:07.9 | So it means that they really want Bolsonaro in jail and sentence like they did to 27 years in jail. |
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